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After the draft, absolute bloodbath at LB position.

After the draft, absolute bloodbath at LB position.
March 18, 2009 08:31AM
My last mock here generated exactly zero replies !
I posted this one elsewhere, but I've put it here too, for those that have interest in such things.

One thing is for sure this year, we will lose a number of players to accomodate the 3-4. There are a bunch of guys that could be on the trade block, for draft picks or players.

Let's start with a projected draft, and see how things impact on the team. I'll just go as far as one pick in round six, and assume anyone else is cut or goes on the practice squad. First, here are my somewhat under-the-radar draft choices, because you know how TT always manages to surprise us.

1) Rush LB Michael Johnson 6'7", 266, 4.59 or 4.49 (timed by Lions) or sub-four seconds (timed by Al Davis )
2) NT Ron Brace 6'3", 330, 5.47
3a) DT/DE Chris Baker 6'2", 326, 5.02 (35.5 vertical too)
3b) OL T.J.Lang 6'4", 312, 5.08 Hugely versatile, had a great pro-day
4) OL Louis Vasquez 6'5", 330, 5.16 (also got 39 reps of 225 at the combine). A guard who might be able to play RT
5) CB Jason McCourty 5'11", 190, 4.44. Didn't throw his way so much in 08, but he had 59 tackles + broke up 6 passes.
6) Rush LB Carl Ihenacho 6'3", 245, 4.68. 7 sacks and 18.5 TFL in 2008.

So, your D line is Jolly, Pickett, Jenkins, backed by Harrell, Brace, Baker and Malone. 7 in total

Your LBs are Kampman, Hawk, Barnett, Johnson, backed by Bishop, Chillar, and maybe two (three at most), from these eight: Montgomery, Thompson, Poppinga, Rouse, Hunter, Pettway, Ihenacho, Lansanah, Havner. That leaves about 6 guys that are trade possibilities. I accept that some may have little value to another team, but others may generate some interest. 8 in total

Your DBs are Harris, Collins, Bigby, Woodson, backed by Williams, Smith, plus three of these four: Lee, Blackmon, Bush, McCourty. 9 in total.

Total D is 24, so you could add one guy anywhere you like, to round out the D. Perhaps a free agent signing

On the O line, you have Clifton, Colledge, Spitz, Sitton, Vasquez, backed by Barbre, Giacomini and T.J.Lang. Eight in total, and no room for Moll or Tauscher or Wells or McCaskill. Add together 3QB + 3TE + 5WR + 5RB/FB + 8OL = 24, so you can add one more guy anywhere, to round out the offense, just like you did on the D.

ST adds 3 to the roster (K, P, LS).

Because there are so many imponderables in the dynamics of the team this year, you cannot accurately predict exactly what will happen, but I hope this gives some idea of how big an axe will fall on many players currently on our roster. The linebacker position will be a real bloodbath, as so many fight for a few positions, and many of those guys are trying to learn both a new position, and a new scheme.
Re: After the draft, absolute bloodbath at LB position.
March 18, 2009 12:03PM
I like your Brace pick. I don't think Raji will fall to us at 9. Brown is my pick at 9 and Brace after him with lineman whether O or D the major fair in the draft. This is crazy,but I'd love to draft Beanie Wells. Don't see it happening.



Thanks,Ted.
Re: After the draft, absolute bloodbath at LB position.
March 21, 2009 12:21AM
Nice analysis. While most of us are wondering who the LB starters will be - you have shown a much broader impact. Further, I cannot understand how the Montgomery signing. He jsut doesn't fit. However, I am VERY interested in watching some of the other guys - especially Hunter and Havner. IMO - both could flourish in the 3-4. Hunter will need to drop that extra weight that Sanders & co. stupidly asked him to add to play tackle. What a headscratcher. Take a fast outside rusher and pack on some pounds to move him inside. ?!?!?!?!?!?!
Re: After the draft, absolute bloodbath at LB position.
March 22, 2009 10:50AM
Very well thought out mock!! I just don't think that Johnson is #9 material!! He had a very mediocre senior year and is trying the Mamula route to the draft. If BJ is there he will be the guy but otherwise I believe that how the first 8 fall will dictate where TT goes. If Stafford isn't the 1st pick Gb could be in an interesting position at 9 and a move back would not be out of question! I like the pick of Brace but I don't know if 41 is the right number for him.
Pack88



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Re: After the draft, absolute bloodbath at LB position.
March 22, 2009 01:50PM
Pack88 - Brace is (imo) a minor reach at #41. However NT is such a difficult position to fill that decent ones go earlier than you might expect. Johnson is also a reach according to many mocks, but I did say my draft was under-the-radar, and some draftniks do think he goes early.

SeniorBeaver. I have to apologise. I had Montgomery pegged as a guy who would lose weight and try out as rush LB in our new defense. In fact, word is now out that he will try to add weight and play DE. I do not think he will succeed there, but better to try that, than to convert to rush LB, where I cannot believe he has any chance at all.
Re: After the draft, absolute bloodbath at LB position.
March 24, 2009 10:45PM
Maybe Monty should bunk with old gilbert for a few months, and come to camp at a full-figured 310 or so. smiling smiley
The very sloppy Gilbert Burger
March 25, 2009 05:00AM
If 'The Gravedigger' takes him to McDonalds every day for Gilbert-Burgers (with extra everything), he'll soon be packing the pounds on.

Probably not 'good weight' though.....
Re: The very sloppy Gilbert Burger
March 25, 2009 04:47PM
Heh...

One minor correction though:

The Gilbert Burger was at Burger King....



Ray Tetzloff
The Packer Wire Administrator/Webmaster
Re: The very sloppy Gilbert Burger
March 25, 2009 05:54PM
My bad. I never eat this stuff myself, so it's not surprising I got it wrong......
Re: After the draft, absolute bloodbath at LB position.
April 13, 2009 06:18PM
I don't usually predict trades, but this year I have:

9) with Raji gone this pick is traded to the Jets for pick # 17 and # 52 (after the groaning from the fans dies down)

17) Clay Matthews OLB from USC

41) TT has hinted at a purely defensive draft. I could go OT here. Going with defense we take Alex Magee DE Purdue (could go with Fili Moala)

52) NT Ron Brace BC

73) OLB Cody Brown UConn

That wraps up day 1
Re: After the draft, absolute bloodbath at LB position.
April 15, 2009 05:35PM
I'd love it if the draft went this way:
1 -- NT; BJ Raji
2 -- OT; William Beaty
3a -- DE/OLB; Lawrence Sidbury Jr.
3b -- OT; Gerald Cadogan
4 -- NT; Terrence Taylor
5 -- DE/DT; Sammie Lee Hill
6a -- DE; Matt Shaughnessy
6b -- DT; Vance Walker
7 -- P; Kevin Huber

If Raji is gone at #9
1 -- OT; Andre Smith (Think he'll either be a Stud or a Dude, no in between)
2 -- NT; Ron Brace
3a -- DE/OLB; Lawrence Sidbury Jr.
3b -- OT; Gerald Cadogan
4 -- NT; Terrence Taylor
5 -- DE/DT; Sammie Lee Hill
6a -- DE; Matt Shaughnessy
6b -- DT; Vance Walker
7 -- P; Kevin Huber